Comments on: Fire Doesn’t Melt Steel: Celebrity Moron Edition

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:50:37 +0000

Silly humans…

Everyone overlooks the real forces, the simple beauty of ignorance. Just as some here have said others know nothing, the government knows everything, this and that are impossible… well, ever hear of a perfect storm? What about a black swan?

These are things, THAT HAPPEN, that we do not understand how in the world it would be possible, at least before they happen. Once they happen, a bunch of people say “of course” and a bunch say “it’s a conspiracy!”. It’s neither…

There is such a thing as resonance, that could destroy the largest building alone… Planes were flown in to these things… how can anyone think that it’s impossible for them to fall? Imagine the forces… not predictable… not logical… definitely not understood… Waves of energy, massive… Not just from the plane, from the fire trucks, from the evacuation, from the panic, from windows bursting… all chaotic forces…

You get enough chaotic forces together and wham… perfect storm. One thing leads to another and failures combine in exciting new ways to make a catastrophe, as unlikely as it may have seen moments before…

Weakened steel… 600* is plenty to weaken structural steel. The height of these buildings and the strong outer grid would transmit the reverberations of any failure through out the structure… possibly causing another small failure… Who knows, maybe all of the office stuff burns at a high enough temperature to do more damage than the fuel…

Thing is, we don’t know… but that is because we are human and it’s more important to us to be RIGHT than to truly KNOW…

By: DMatthews

DMatthews — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:03:47 +0000

Okay.. So.. I’m a just a high school girl doing research. I’m in physics. And by all means correct me.
It is physically impossible for a building to fall free fall with the structure that the towers had. The towers had an exterior grid structure as well as an interior structure. Meaning there was a structure built around another structure. It is said that the planes’ jet fuel caused the steel to melt. Okay. I do not doubt the fact that the steel was weakened. But melted? Come on guys. Seriously think. I would understand if the towers had the basic skyscraper structure… Sorry that it escapes me.. But they didn’t. The towers were built with a top of the line structure, built to withstand such impact. I don’t know the whole thing about the hijackers being alive and all that stuff…. I don’t care. But I do know that it’s fishy… Mannny many many of the people interviewed about the towers that were on site heard the ‘explosion’ just before the first tower fell. I watched a video where the first explosion was clearly heard. They were within a few blocks from the tower before it collapsed. There were numerous explosions. Though I, only a 2nd grader at the time, heard no explosions- of course, there were plenty of firemen interviewed that heard the explosions. Why the explosions never made front page the day after? Who knows. But the day of, there was countless counts heard of them. News reporters, even recorded, reported saying, “It looks as this were a demolition with the interior exploded so the buildings would fall straight down.” It was something of that kind. Think. How is that physically possible? The buildings fell STRAIGHT down. ALL THREE!!! Those ‘collapses’ don’t look like normal collapses. A normal collapse would fall mostly towards the side it was weakened by. But they didn’t. They all fell straight down. And you mean to tell me that a couple of random fires in building 7 caused the entire building to collapse? You are all older and smart guys that know that a couple of random fires does not make an ENTIRE building fall in free fall. Look it up. There are numerous buildings that has withstood fires on numerous floors for numerous hooooours and mind you, they did not collapse. So to say that the structure of the towers were simply not strong enough is completely ignorant. Because the buildings that have withstood fires and did not collapse definitely didn’t have the fine structures of the twin towers. This was a demolition. It is proven that this was a demolition. Concrete and metal floor plates don’t completely disintegrate. There is an interview of fireman who cleaned up on the site saying, “There were no desks, no desk chairs, no computers, no phones, no nothing found on the site.” You mean to tell me that a simple collapse caused all of this to disintegrate? Along with the bodies? Bodies that were found in 200 pieces? A collapsed building causes someone to break up into 200 pieces? And is this why more than 1,100 people were not accounted for because some of the remains were simply too small to collect DNA from? And is this why very very very small bone fragments, the size of a couple millimeters, were found on top of buildings away? A simple building collapse caused this? For the guy who said how did the the explosives get planted. Well I don’t feel like going back into my research b/c I have already said so much, but there was a remodeling of the elevators 9 months prior to 9/11. And if we are going to say that this was a controlled demolition, this was obviously planned. And 9 months give plenty of time to place whatever was needed to be placed inside closest to the interior structure as possible. It was said that guards stood with guns outside the areas of which ‘they were working on the elevators’. In building 7 it looked as if lava was being poured out one section of a fire. It was said that pieces of the planes had flew into building 7. That the debris flew into building 7. And that would explain the molten that flowed from the building. The plane was made out of aluminum. Aluminum doesn’t burn orange like lava. It simply burns silver. Of course. Many things are unaccounted for. To say that one of the most secure buildings in the world allowed Al-Qaeda into it to place explosions is also ignorant. To say that our own government did so… Hey.. You tell me.. Until it’s 100% completely proven, we’ll never know. I just feel completely horrible for the people that were in the buildings… That’s what nobody is too worried about. I’m horrified of the thought that our own government could have had something to do with it. It’s completely horrifying to know that I am never safe. To know that simply with this post, they can track were I live from my ip address….. I don’t even care anymore about the structures of the buildings. How they fell… I don’t care anymore. I just feel completely remorseful, even though I had nothing to do with the situation, for all the lives that were lost….. Family members. Friends. Children. I couldn’t imagine if I was one of the little kids who’s mother or father, or both, died in the twin towers. I couldn’t imagine what it is like growing up without one of my parents. I remember watching when I was younger as they were showing people jumping out of the building… My God. Though I haven’t hit 18 yet, this situation has effected me as if I was an adult, or had lost one of my own… If the government did have something to do with it, there is simply nothing we can do about it. Those who think they can go to someone about it, don’t even keep your hopes up… The power among some of the people in this government and connecting them abroad is too strong for the people of this country. I truly wonder where this world is going to be when I’m old. I worry.

By: JP

JP — Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:18:53 +0000

Steel is made using the intense heat from a FORGE or a FURNACE not ordinary ‘fire.’ Blacksmiths are not using the fire in a campfire to make swords or anything else. Foolish article. Just Foolish.

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By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:00:42 +0000

Deep breaths gang. Take a deep breath. I know this article is old and the comments are really old but I would like to say a couple things for the truthers to bash me with and ridcule me.

I guess I don’t know if there actually was “Melted” steel at the site and I know the jet fuel “couldn’t possible melt it”. But like what a few other people have posted the extreme heat from the jet fuel, all the crap in the building burning (desks, papers, carpet, cubicle, etc), and the concrete shell insulating the building WILL greatly weaken the steel.

Like Frank H said with that amount of heat it may have removed the tempering. I think to re-temper the steel you need to dip it in cold water (I could be way off here but i’m to tired to look all this stuff up).

If it was a “controlled demolition” please explain to me how this was pulled off? Did secret agents pack the walls full of explosives while posing as janitorial staff working late nights? That makes me laugh.

If you noticed the planes hit several floors below the top of the building. I believe the the floors were only able to support several hundred pounds per square inch. When the weakened metal finally gave you now have several floors pounding on a single floor with several thousand pounds per square inch, which then buckles the floor underneath and so on and so fourth.

And for those that think our government pulled it off, do us a favor and move to a different country and see how much better it is there.
Is there corruption in our gov.? Yes. I find it insulting that people think our government would willingly kill a few thousand people to start a war. Even if it was true wouldn’t it involve hundreds if not thousands of people? How would you be able to keep all of them quite?

By: Julian

Julian — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:10:07 +0000

I know this is all just accusations against accusations, but Sam, a “campfire-sized” fire will not melt steel, this is either an extremely naive and “optimistic” opinion or it just a straight out lie.

I don’t want to offend you, but reshaping steel and melting it is COMPLETELY different, do not assume that you just need to wait a little longer to see it happen.

By: Sam

Sam — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:39:19 +0000

Um… I have reshaped steel using a “campfire-sized” fire in my back yard. I invite any skeptics to perform this experiment to confirm that steel, indeed, will weaken and given enough time would melt. I don’t know if there was a conspiracy or not, but I know this “steel won’t melt” aspect of it should just be let go. It makes its adherants seem… spoon-fed. Hard to take someone serious when they are so wrong about something so simple.

By: lorien1973

lorien1973 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:41:15 +0000

You didn’t research anything. Don’t make it sound like you did. Or you’d find out that, in fact, all the hijackers are dead – because, you know, they are.

By: jewl

jewl — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:27:55 +0000

look I dont want to fight I just want to know what happened loren or whatever you name is… Im just telling you what I have researched. I dont understand how you can just discredit everything everyone says like you know everything… honey look everyone has their own opinions so why must you be so hostle?
look first of all go to the time magazine website and look at the info on the 15 highjackers it is true… second of cool down I just wrote what I found out so chill

By: lorien1973

lorien1973 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:03:56 +0000

The things you believe as “facts” are not facts. So if you really want to know the truth, maybe you should ask intelligent questions. First. K?

If you look at some pictures of the world trade center just before it was hit you can see plumes of smoke comming from the windows.

Nope. Not true.

also the 15 highjackers that where anounced 7 of them are alive!

Nope. Produce pictures.

also one specifically calles hani hanure(forgive my spelling) failed all of his flight schools all of them he didnt even know how to even start the plane also how did they know his name?

Nope. His name was on the passenger manifest.

they reportably found a passport on the ground outside of the trade center. how could it have not been insinerated?

Maybe you should read up on momentum. They also found the bound hands of stewardesses on the road too.

the flight pattern of the sesna (spelt wrong?) was only possiable for a military plane to fly

It wasn’t a cessna. And apparently, by your own words, a cessna could have also maneuvered like that, not only a military plane. eh?

not even the titaniam engines… they said that they melted… maybe they did

Engine parts were found.

the FBI confinscated all of the surrounding hotels footage of the crash anf hour after it supposably happend why would they do that>

normal in an investigation. footage has since been released.

Your desire to “know the truth” is highly suspect.