Oy Vey!
We have another celebrity coming out party. Yet another science major thinks that fire cannot melt steel. I haven’t blogged about these 9/11 truther morons in forever, because the target is just too easy. But celebrities get more press, so it’s fun to laugh at their buffoonery. Here is a quote from the story:
Miss O’Donnell claims the collapse of the World Trade Center towers was “the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel — it is physically impossible.”
Samurai Sword makers, Blacksmiths, Steel smelters, and Steel recyclers all boggle at this amazing concept of fire not being able to melt steel. Where do these people think steel comes from? It’s melted from a mixture of metals. With fire. And shaped. With fire. To make things out of it. And when it’s not needed; it’s torn down and melted, with fire, and recycled to make other things. It’s a very stunning concept, really.
The Steel Growers Farm Association is pleased to know that they have another customer though!
The customer base for growing steel girders from seeds and letting them grow naturally with sunlight and love; then cutting them down with hammer and chisels just isn’t the business it was eons ago; before, you know, fire was discovered. Accursed blacksmiths! So support your local pre-caveman farmers, generating steel like it was meant to be generated! On farms, from seeds. With love.
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Thomas on March 7th, 2008
Excellent in all respects! Cheers
Tony on April 18th, 2008
It is easy to bash these people bacause of the simplicity and nievity of their all encompassing statements ‘ Fire does not melt steel’
However, thats not what was meant. If you take your emotion and your willingness to battle the retards then wise up to the fact.
Jet fuel has a flash point temperature, the flash point temperature ‘the highest acheivable temperature ‘ was not hot enough and could not sustain enough specific heat capacity to melt or buckle tempered steel.
That was the proper way of saying it.
I think most people know that Fire melts steel, however, i give you this example. Make a fire in your garden, a campfire and go cook some marshmallows over it and sing a few camp songs. Now take a big metal poker and leave it in the fire until the fire goes out.
Will the metal bar have melted ? will it have weakened, ? will anything hve happened to the metal bar ? No, NO, NO.
The size of the metal is obviously as important to the heat capacity of the fuel to melt it. This is why we have a thing called a ‘furnace’ for your information, a Furnace is not a fire.
A furnace has to be constantly heated to achieve a superheat. That is a heat that is above the normal capacity of an agent to produce heat.
Jet fuel burns, forgive me for not having the absolute numbers, but jet fuel burns at 600 degree’s once it is burnt it is gone. i.e their is no furnace effect, Tempered steel in the World trade centre was built to stand 2000 degree’s of temperature before it buckled.
Now, the conspiracy theoristes take this fact and use it.
You on the other hand are equally as niave to belitte them with your retred point of view.
Just how does Jet fuel that has no furnace to capture heat, has limited supply of fuel, i.e the tanks of jet fuel, burns at 600 degree’s actually melt steel that only melts at 2000 degree’s ?
Okay, of course you cant explain it. That however does not mean that the terrorists or federal government blew it up with c4 charges either.
What is more of a logical explanation, is simply this. The steel on the World trade centre was not as tough as we thought it should be.
Our ability to calculate stress and loads is getting better. Things work on paper, ask why an underground tunnel fell in Boston, or a bridge fell in Minnesota.
Maybe the steel in the trade centre was cheap substandard steel ran my mafia contractors skimming of the top.
Those are the more obvious explanations. However, it is not becoming to belittle others when yourself resort to moronic point the finger and laugh tactics, when you yourself cannot explain the simple argument they are trying to make.
Yes Fire melts steel, but bear in mind it will only melt it when it is furnaced, when the fire is hot enough and the steel reaches its melt point !
Those things should not have happened with a jet plane crash.
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Frank H on August 15th, 2008
Tony said a bunch of stuff that he really doesn’t know about.
Steel (a misnomer, as “steel” can be any of a bunch of different metal alloys) that is used in construction has a melting point (according to U.S. and European standards) of 540 degrees C, or about 1004 degrees F.
Aircraft fuel burns at temperatures about 600 degrees C (and UPWARDS) depending on MANY variables including weather, the density of the fuel/air mixture, etc.
If one leaves a fireplace poker in a fire, it WILL affect the steel in the poker. Whether Tony is willing to admit it or not.
BTW, most fireplace pokers are pure iron, and therefore have a higher melting temperature…which is why they are made of pure iron.
If you’d like to try Tony’s experiment with a common garden shovel, which is made of steel (and is NOT pure iron), and leave it in the fire overnight, you will DEFINATELY weaken the shovel’s blade. It is likely to remove the “tempering” of the steel.
That being said, Tony’s support of the idiocy of the left wing whackos is apparent, and his attempt to reparse their words shows his.